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Well, one of the things you mentioned there, backtracking a little bit, that I've been very curious about recently is you talked about how when you weren't clear what your opinion was supposed to be or if your opinion was challenged in any way, it caused you to feel really strong anxiety.

And we have noticed that whenever we have engaged with people who have more of that mindset, it's like, you can never talk about ideas because there's always an emotional reaction.

Do you think this is what's happening?

It's like, if you have that mindset and I say to you, well, have you heard about this?

Or are you aware of that?

Or, you know, I see a flaw in that logic.

It's not like we're discussing the ideas.

I'm like threatening your entire existence.

Wow.

So how do you, can you win those people over?

But can you?

What?

Look around.

I was going to ask you about that actually, because one of the things that we've, as you well know, I imagine if, since you watch our show is we've always tried to find, you know, the highest value for us is balance and truth.