Konstantin Kisin

Yeah.

But nonetheless, the moment you question the progressive movement, you immediately become in a right wing or whatever in their minds.

When you were kind of in that space, what do you think were some of the most effective ways of reaching someone who has that point of view?

without being immediately put in a kind of right-wing box or whatever it might be?

Is there something that we and others can do to make ourselves more palatable and to actually reach across that aisle?

You're laughing, which makes me worried.

Sure.

And I think that's a really important part of it because, like, when the student is ready, the teacher magically emerges.

But also, I was wondering if you... And you're a parent now, of course.

I'm sure you've thought about this.

As a parent, what can one do to help their children kind of...

Just navigate this.

I'm not saying you have to brainwash them into your worldview, but how do you, like the word that you used, I love, inoculate.

How do you inoculate your children against this craziness?

That's so crazy to me.

I always say, though, when people ask me the same question, I'm like, I am so lucky because I have family living in poor countries.

Right.

So the moment... If my son ever said something like, oh, we live in the West, I'd be like, okay.

Three months in Armenia.

Bye-bye.