Konstantin Kisin

Is it possible also that because of the draft and because the people who are going to fight and die and be maimed in Vietnam

are just normal people who didn't volunteer for this, who didn't want to be professional soldiers, that the sentiment among the American public at this point has already turned?

And you mentioned that the perception was eventually that this was a white man's war.

Is the implication it's a white man's war being fought by black, disproportionately by black people?

And when you say starting around, I would assume that the racial antagonism is simply the legacy of the history of slavery and Jim Crow and all the rest of it in this country.

Is that what's driving this or is there a new dimension?

You know, you mentioned the black power movement itself.

And Mark, this takes us into the realm of Hollywood, which actually is a big part of this, but probably after the war.

Well, one of the things that's been depicted in a number of movies, one of them, I think, American Gangster with Denzel Washington, is the idea that actually the Vietnam War becomes a big drug trafficking operation, and a lot of drugs are coming to the United States through that.

A lot of the Army is involved, the CIA is involved.

How much truth is there to that?

Well, we'll talk about that, but before we get there, take us through to the end of the war.

We've got to this point where the morale is dipping, the soldiers on the ground are starting to realize we can't actually win because the politicians won't let us.

Eventually,

the rot sets in, the American media is on air, you've got these racial tensions, morale is dropping further.

As you said, no one wants to be the last guy to die in Vietnam.

What happens then and how do we get through to the American withdrawal?

So the war was fought because of the domino theory, the idea that if you let Vietnam get overrun by communists, communism will spread in Asia.

Well, Vietnam does get overrun by communists.

Was domino theory correct?