Konstantin Kisin

So I just wonder how all of this is ultimately gonna get resolved.

But I guess we'll find out.

Yeah, the thing is, I don't think people are ever going to have kids to save the country.

No.

I think what people might discover, and we've had lots of conversations on this trip around the US with people, women in particular, our generation, sort of late 30s, early 40s,

who just, they feel like they've missed out on something important.

And I think as we move forward in society and people increasingly lack meaning and purpose in their lives, that might be actually the reason that people do think about this differently over time.

Might be.

or we could be completely screwed.

But the thing is, it's hardwired into us.

So when you, like I have a three-year-old, when you have kids, like all these little things that have been built into us for millennia activate.

And this is really the core of your book.

That's what you're really saying is all of this, all of our politics, it goes back to the basic fundamental instinct, which is to have children and to have them live into adulthood and to reproduce.

And the way we think about everything ultimately boils down to that original source.

Isn't that right?

It's not women.

That was much cruder than I think.

I think married women and unmarried young women vote very, very differently.

And men, too.

I think it's much more about that.