Konstantin Kisin

But Stephen isn't... He's not a political operator. Correct. Dire of a CEO. Correct.

But Stephen isn't... He's not a political operator. Correct. Dire of a CEO. Correct.

Well, there's a couple that you're missing. Rory. So Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell. We've had Rory on the show. I like Rory as a person. Mm-hmm. I don't know if you followed their coverage pre-election.

Well, there's a couple that you're missing. Rory. So Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell. We've had Rory on the show. I like Rory as a person. Mm-hmm. I don't know if you followed their coverage pre-election.

Well, there's a couple that you're missing. Rory. So Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell. We've had Rory on the show. I like Rory as a person. Mm-hmm. I don't know if you followed their coverage pre-election.

And again, this is not an attack on them as individuals, but they were wrong about everything. not only were they wrong about everything, they massively doubled down after being wrong about everything. So in the days before the election, Rory Stewart was saying, well, you know, these polls showing that it's neck and neck, they're completely wrong.

And again, this is not an attack on them as individuals, but they were wrong about everything. not only were they wrong about everything, they massively doubled down after being wrong about everything. So in the days before the election, Rory Stewart was saying, well, you know, these polls showing that it's neck and neck, they're completely wrong.

And again, this is not an attack on them as individuals, but they were wrong about everything. not only were they wrong about everything, they massively doubled down after being wrong about everything. So in the days before the election, Rory Stewart was saying, well, you know, these polls showing that it's neck and neck, they're completely wrong.

People are afraid to say the truth, which is that Kamala is going to smash this. And on the night of the election, when he was clearly proven completely wrong, he was like, well, I was wrong on the facts, but I was not wrong to be optimistic or whatever it was. And he was just going, okay, well, just take all that aside. These people have no idea what's going on in reality in America.

People are afraid to say the truth, which is that Kamala is going to smash this. And on the night of the election, when he was clearly proven completely wrong, he was like, well, I was wrong on the facts, but I was not wrong to be optimistic or whatever it was. And he was just going, okay, well, just take all that aside. These people have no idea what's going on in reality in America.

People are afraid to say the truth, which is that Kamala is going to smash this. And on the night of the election, when he was clearly proven completely wrong, he was like, well, I was wrong on the facts, but I was not wrong to be optimistic or whatever it was. And he was just going, okay, well, just take all that aside. These people have no idea what's going on in reality in America.

They were just completely wrong. They are probably the most popular podcast when it comes to politics in this country.

They were just completely wrong. They are probably the most popular podcast when it comes to politics in this country.

They were just completely wrong. They are probably the most popular podcast when it comes to politics in this country.

And again, I like Rory as a person. He's a lovely man. He's been on the show. I found him very interesting. And he's been on our show, and we happily have him back. And I'd happily have Alistair back, although I rate him less. But not back. I'd happily have Alistair on. My point, though, is that quite a lot of people in Britain are living in this imaginary world.

And again, I like Rory as a person. He's a lovely man. He's been on the show. I found him very interesting. And he's been on our show, and we happily have him back. And I'd happily have Alistair back, although I rate him less. But not back. I'd happily have Alistair on. My point, though, is that quite a lot of people in Britain are living in this imaginary world.

And again, I like Rory as a person. He's a lovely man. He's been on the show. I found him very interesting. And he's been on our show, and we happily have him back. And I'd happily have Alistair back, although I rate him less. But not back. I'd happily have Alistair on. My point, though, is that quite a lot of people in Britain are living in this imaginary world.

which is reinforced for them by people that they instinctively lean towards. And they're not as aware as you are because you live in the US or as I am because I get a chance to travel there of actually what's going on. And I only realized this, you know, this year because this year is, I've been to America loads of times before, but this year was the year that I actually went to like real America.

which is reinforced for them by people that they instinctively lean towards. And they're not as aware as you are because you live in the US or as I am because I get a chance to travel there of actually what's going on. And I only realized this, you know, this year because this year is, I've been to America loads of times before, but this year was the year that I actually went to like real America.

which is reinforced for them by people that they instinctively lean towards. And they're not as aware as you are because you live in the US or as I am because I get a chance to travel there of actually what's going on. And I only realized this, you know, this year because this year is, I've been to America loads of times before, but this year was the year that I actually went to like real America.