Konstantin Kisin

And you can say they've got drug addictions, and I'm sure many of them do.

But they also profoundly mentally ill.

We're talking schizophrenia or other types.

So they're going to need to be housed somewhere.

And many of them, they can't afford to pay.

So it's the state that's going to have to pay.

You're looking at, you've already spoken about the fact that penitentiaries were full to overflowing.

We're going to need to build more prisons here.

That's part of my plan, exactly.

So let's talk about that, because that's also going to cost money, if we're going to be honest.

to build and staff penitentiaries.

That's going to cost a lot more.

You've been here too long, mate.

No, no, no, I understand.

I'm joking.

Yeah, I think the thing that I found the most, the worst bit about it wasn't necessarily the behavior of the elites.

It was the behavior of ordinary people during that time.

The fact that your neighbor was so willing to snitch on you because you went for a second walk.

But it's almost like... So there's a very old joke about Venezuela where God was creating Venezuela.

And he was like, you know what I'm going to do?