Konstantin Kisin

Is it because we see Fukuyama and we get worried about a disaster like that?

Fukushima.

Fukushima, sorry.

Francis Fukuyama has made a lot of mistakes.

Well, you could say the end of history was a nuclear meltdown.

But yeah, I agree.

So Fukushima, or is it just a hangover from the Cold War where we, our entire generation, thought we were going to die in a nuclear war?

What role do you see advanced technologies like AI-driven modelling playing in reshaping the climate debate, especially when geological data spans millions of years?

You're focusing on the narrow economic part of it, but I think what Francis is alluding to is there's... It's the same thing.

Well, is it, though?

Because there's a cultural and ideological dimension to this as well, because, say, the policy of net zero, which is just economic suicide.

It's the same thing.

Pierre Polly, welcome to Trigonometry.

It's great to have you.

You're obviously very close to becoming the Prime Minister of Canada.

That didn't happen in very interesting and challenging circumstances.

We'll talk about that.

But it's great to have you.

And the first thing we actually want to do is just to hear your perspective very broadly on what you see happening in the Western world geopolitically today.

There's obviously a huge realignment going on.