Konstantin Kisin

It's more like...

Right.

But if you think about a Roomba, I don't think it's like anything to be a Roomba, even though it does things in the world, right?

I think there's like a software, hey, go clean this way, then go clean that way, then come back to base.

And then on the other end of the spectrum, you have humans where I'm like, because I'm a human and I know it's...

you know the the cart's thing of like the only thing i know is that i am the only thing i know is that i'm experiencing something something is going on when i just like think about i feel my hands i feel i feel thoughts i feel sensations um and because you're a human i presume you also have the same thing it would make sense um with animals i feel like similar it's

There's close enough to us anatomically and neurologically that I presume they also have experience.

What is it like to... This is a famous question that Thomas Nagel came up with.

What is it like to be a bat?

We don't know, but presumably it's like something to be a bat.

With chatbots, are they more like the Roomba or are they more like humans?

Is there a spectrum here?

If so, what does the spectrum look like?

I don't know.

I mean, this is just... We don't have a theory of consciousness yet.

That the same way we have a theory of state gravity or a theory of natural selection, where we have this deep underlying, oh, like, here's why natural selection happens.

Here's why things attract each other with mass.

We don't have that kind of thing for what is conscious.

Like, why do some things, why for some things is it the case that it is like something to be them and for others it is not?

Okay, tell me why.