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Konstantin Kisin

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

I don't know if this is the main point, but...

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

You and I have a survival instinct, and I think we're productive members of society.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

Sure.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

And we've built a society where people who are selfish, who are trying to make their own lives better, as a natural byproduct of their actions, also make society better.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

And, you know, this is a...

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people observe, like, you take somebody like Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk or whatever, and in another era, they might have been Napoleons and Alexanders just going through the fields and... I don't think they'd actually be mass-working people, but, like, there's a certain kind of person who would just go around just, um...

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

causing huge amounts of destruction.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

But in today's world, there's capitalism and industry and whatever.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

They can use those energies to do incredibly productive things, like build rockets that go to space.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

So yeah, similarly, I don't think it's necessary that AI never has its own objectives or its own sense of morality.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

I think there's ways to build this.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

And in fact, it's necessary to build civilization in a way that's compatible with self-interested actors.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

And the reason is because even if today we have AIs that we can program to only care about whatever it means to care about humans, someday somebody's going to build an AI that's self-interested.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

And if...

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

there's going to be some selection between AIs.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

Which is the AI that survives?

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

All these AIs are let loose.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

Which one gathers resources becomes more powerful?

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

One of the reasons that an AI will be successful is that it actually cares about being successful.

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People Have No Idea What Is About To Happen - Dwarkesh Patel

We need a civilization that's robust to AIs that partly also care about themselves.