Konstantin Kisin

uh you can kind of click this undo button where suddenly it goes back to the original you and it honestly looks deformed it's like horrifying and i it took i was doing that all through my teenage years and it's taken me years to not to like enjoy having a photo taken or allow a photo to be taken of me because that contrast between the filtered me and the real me just felt horrifying

Yeah.

Well, I got a phone when it was, so the social media apps were in chronological order.

So it was whoever posted in the order that they posted.

And then it changed to algorithms where it was then dependent on what you lingered over, what you watched twice, any emotional reaction you had to something.

My mum didn't know that they changed the algorithm.

And so it went from Instagram being very benign to very sinister very quickly.

But I kind of have hope for my generation because I think that...

this conversation is happening and we know more about it.

And I think for my parents' generation, there was just no knowing where this was going to go.

And they often thought the opposite was going to happen than what did happen.

Like we would all become more connected and friendlier and understand each other more.

And now we can see that it's pretty much the opposite.

But some of the, I mean, have you seen some of the AI filters, how realistic they are?

Yeah.

So when I was younger, if you sort of waved your hand in front of your face, it would glitch off.

but now you can film a whole video of yourself as someone else using AI.

Yeah, I think a weird thing happened where I wrote the book thinking my generation was so infantilized and coddled.

That was my initial assumption.

And then I got to the end and I was like, there's actually two things happening at once where...