Kristen Schwab

Fair enough.

Daniela Velasquez de Leon is general manager at Organics Unlimited.

Daniela Velasquez de Leon is general manager at Organics Unlimited.

Thanks for talking.

Thanks for talking.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You may remember all those stories at the end of last year about how 2025 set another record for online holiday spending.

You may remember all those stories at the end of last year about how 2025 set another record for online holiday spending.

Well, we just got a new snapshot of what happened, delayed because of last year's government shutdown.

Well, we just got a new snapshot of what happened, delayed because of last year's government shutdown.

And it kind of contradicts the super spending narrative.

And it kind of contradicts the super spending narrative.

The Census Bureau's report on December retail sales says they were flat.

The Census Bureau's report on December retail sales says they were flat.

Zero percent.

Zero percent.

Basically unchanged from the month before.

Basically unchanged from the month before.

So what's going on here?