Kristin Demoranville

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. And we, as much as we're technical, I think OT requires us to understand people in process. How are they working with the equipment that they're using? Because they're going to circumvent it anyways, you know, if they have to. I've heard so many stories, even on air, about... Users doing silly things around OT stuff.

Yeah. And we, as much as we're technical, I think OT requires us to understand people in process. How are they working with the equipment that they're using? Because they're going to circumvent it anyways, you know, if they have to. I've heard so many stories, even on air, about... Users doing silly things around OT stuff.

And, and it's, it's, I think that's something that we all share is we've all got those stories of, wow, that happened. Okay. Uh, and we also are used to running small budgets, bubblegum and shoestring type operations. We get that, you know, and, um, I think that's a lot what separates us from the I.T.

And, and it's, it's, I think that's something that we all share is we've all got those stories of, wow, that happened. Okay. Uh, and we also are used to running small budgets, bubblegum and shoestring type operations. We get that, you know, and, um, I think that's a lot what separates us from the I.T.

side of the house, too, because I mean, they don't always get the biggest budgets either, but they get a little bit more than we do because of infrastructure. And I think that's something that's interesting. And I've been having this conversation a lot in the food space, especially with food safety people. When are we going to make food safety not a cost center, but a profit opportunity center?

side of the house, too, because I mean, they don't always get the biggest budgets either, but they get a little bit more than we do because of infrastructure. And I think that's something that's interesting. And I've been having this conversation a lot in the food space, especially with food safety people. When are we going to make food safety not a cost center, but a profit opportunity center?

And when are we going to take cybersecurity and do the same thing? And I said, it's going to take a lot of people probably

And when are we going to take cybersecurity and do the same thing? And I said, it's going to take a lot of people probably

you know get nil before that happens and i don't mean to be mean i don't it's just realistic to say it's just real and i hope we as ot people we all kind of clench a little bit because we don't want that because we know how devastating it could be if something happened no matter what sector you're in and it's the local community that's going to suffer the most

you know get nil before that happens and i don't mean to be mean i don't it's just realistic to say it's just real and i hope we as ot people we all kind of clench a little bit because we don't want that because we know how devastating it could be if something happened no matter what sector you're in and it's the local community that's going to suffer the most

The site, the people around that site will be the ones that will suffer the burden. And I think that's something I always think about. I did a little investigation on your state, Mike, because I was like, I know there's a lot of food and ag there. There has to be. You guys are actually a big producer of turkeys. I know, right?

The site, the people around that site will be the ones that will suffer the burden. And I think that's something I always think about. I did a little investigation on your state, Mike, because I was like, I know there's a lot of food and ag there. There has to be. You guys are actually a big producer of turkeys. I know, right?

You guys actually produce a lot of turkeys and I didn't either because I, this again, why would I know that? I know the self's big on poultry, but I didn't specifically know turkeys for you.

You guys actually produce a lot of turkeys and I didn't either because I, this again, why would I know that? I know the self's big on poultry, but I didn't specifically know turkeys for you.

Yeah. Chicken's big, but like turkeys are bigger for you. So, which is hilarious because turkeys are bigger. Ha ha, pun. So, you know, you probably can't you wouldn't have to go too far away from where you live really to see the agriculture and state. I mean, I know when you drive up and down, you see quite a bit of it anyways.

Yeah. Chicken's big, but like turkeys are bigger for you. So, which is hilarious because turkeys are bigger. Ha ha, pun. So, you know, you probably can't you wouldn't have to go too far away from where you live really to see the agriculture and state. I mean, I know when you drive up and down, you see quite a bit of it anyways.

And it's it's amazing how much agriculture is tucked into where we live. But we just ignore it, you know, because it's just part of the infrastructure around us. It's not it's like a power line. Do you really see your I mean, I we all probably notice power lines because we're paying attention to that kind of stuff. But yeah.

And it's it's amazing how much agriculture is tucked into where we live. But we just ignore it, you know, because it's just part of the infrastructure around us. It's not it's like a power line. Do you really see your I mean, I we all probably notice power lines because we're paying attention to that kind of stuff. But yeah.