Kristin Demoranville

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Bites and Bytes Podcast · How Cybersecurity is Reshaping Food Safety with Rick Biros · 14 Oct 2024 podcast

Just from listening to people tell me their stories about what happened to their company or I mean, it's China Mouse rules. We're not all going to be like, oh, this company is, you know, it doesn't matter. But the fact that people were able to really be candid with me and saying, I don't understand technology. I know I work with it, but like, what's the bad stuff?

And it was that nice moment of we need to do more of that. you know, as an industry, specifically both the food and the cybersecurity side of the house. And I love that you facilitate that. I thought that was one of the best parts, personally. I still think, and then obviously the hallway chatter, because I can't go five feet without having a conversation or getting involved in something.

And then, you know, there's so many characters in the food industry. I mean, we know so many people that just are bigger than life personalities and really make it so much more enjoyable. It takes the drudgery of the roles that we do out a little bit, which is really helpful because sometimes we really hear some really sad, nasty stuff. Like we really do. And it can be really draining at times.

I'm sure this year will be rough at talking about everything. Listeria is a nasty thing. I can't believe we're still dealing with it truthfully. You mentioned technology, and I love that one of your favorite memories from the publishing is a technology rise, essentially. So you've been doing this for 13 years, Rick, right? And obviously you've had a food career before that.

Technology is all of a sudden sort of, I think, in the last decade, really, just taken off in the food industry. It's gone all kinds of directions. I was listening to some podcasts this morning about the agricultural side, and they've got tech that's crazy. I was like, excuse me, what? Now we've got this to deal with? But how do you see it going?

Because we've got a lot of really big issues that are coming up that I think only technology is going to be able to really solve. And we're still not solving the problem of, you know, the ransomware attacks that are happening in the industry and the other types of cyber attacks and the insider threats and all the other issues that go along with food safety in terms of the digital physical world.

Just curious what your thoughts are, like the last 13 years, how that has looked.

Actually, the new FISMA guidelines actually have clauses and they're talking about how there has to be cybersecurity protocols around your food safety protocols in terms of tech. So I was like, hello, does anybody know this? Now all the listeners do, but like, you know, that's not something that's been like broadcast in like cybersecurity world.

Yeah.

Yeah, you still have to say it, though. And I hate that we have to say it because I think that people just think cybersecurity is strong passwords, two-factor authentication, don't share your passwords. You know, just good hygiene in general. It has to be said because people still use the same password for their Gmail as they do for their email at work.

You know, until we fix the human problem, it has to be said. However, I don't enjoy saying it. I hate saying it because I feel like, like you said, people should know this. They should know better. We teach it to elementary school kids. Like, come on, you know, but it is what it is.

Yep, PLCs.

Before we jump back in, I wanted to let you know where you can catch me live this October. I'll be speaking at the Food Safety Consortium on Monday, October 21st, followed by the ICS Conference in Atlanta from October 22nd to 24th. You won't want to miss my talk at that conference on Thursday, October 24th.

After that, I'm heading to Montreal for the Insider Conference from October 28th through 30th, where I'll be on a fantastic panel with some of our previous podcast guests. All the details will be in the show notes. Now, I've got an exciting deal for you. Rick has been incredibly generous and offered a discount code to the Food Safety Consortium.

Use the code RICKYB at checkout to get $200 off your ticket. That's R-I-C-K-Y-B. Huge thanks to Rick for making this available to all the listeners. The Food Safety Consortium from October 19th to 22nd. The link to register will be in the show notes and you can find out more details at foodsafetyconsortium.org.

Correct. And it should be, especially since chief information security officers are being held accountable for Now, it does a food safety CISO or CISA, however you want to say it. Do they want to take full responsibility for a foodborne illness off a production line that came from a cyber attack? No, of course not.

But would that motivate them to make sure that all the protocols were covered and we're constantly monitoring and being prepared and being resilient rather than just recovering? No. Yeah. So I see the good and the bad with it. It's a slippery slope too, Rick, because there's not enough people that understand the system. You know what I mean?

The system of food and the system of how technology and food are together. You know as well as I do in these facilities, it's production uptime and employee safety. And that's all anybody cares about. Obviously food safety is included in that conversation, but it's, it's that constant movement. We gotta be agile. We gotta go, we gotta go. And if it gets in the way, they don't wanna deal with it.

So the idea, and I know that this is where I've sat down and I had some really awesome conversations at the conference and beyond.

Realizing that food defense and food safety and security have to work with business mindsets of how do we incorporate us into their bottom line, if you will, their production uptime and their employee safety and creating that food safety culture to grab the whole trifecta of buzzy words. But cybersecurity is part of that now.

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