Kristin Demoranville

And we have so many examples. And I know I don't want to be heavy like nation state poo-poo here, but here we are. We already have examples of how this is happening. Destabilize a country. They will do that through electricity and food. Because they want you to freeze to death in the winter and they want you to starve. It's basic warfare, right? That scares me. We already have examples.

And we have so many examples. And I know I don't want to be heavy like nation state poo-poo here, but here we are. We already have examples of how this is happening. Destabilize a country. They will do that through electricity and food. Because they want you to freeze to death in the winter and they want you to starve. It's basic warfare, right? That scares me. We already have examples.

Ukraine is a great one. Not a great one for a good reason, but it's a great example of this for happening. And it's so frustrating to me that we still haven't realized this. I have a good friend of mine who is a agricultural futurist. He's a strategist. He does focus on cybersecurity as well. And he asked me, deadpan one day, have I ever starved? Or how was the longest I went without food?

Ukraine is a great one. Not a great one for a good reason, but it's a great example of this for happening. And it's so frustrating to me that we still haven't realized this. I have a good friend of mine who is a agricultural futurist. He's a strategist. He does focus on cybersecurity as well. And he asked me, deadpan one day, have I ever starved? Or how was the longest I went without food?

I'm like, I don't know, 48 hours, maybe because of a flight situation or something like that. And he goes, you know, he's like, I tried an experiment for 10 days. And he's like, I didn't make it that far. He goes, it made me realize how many hours or days would it take you to commit a crime? You had to feed your family and there was no food. Yeah.

I'm like, I don't know, 48 hours, maybe because of a flight situation or something like that. And he goes, you know, he's like, I tried an experiment for 10 days. And he's like, I didn't make it that far. He goes, it made me realize how many hours or days would it take you to commit a crime? You had to feed your family and there was no food. Yeah.

And I thought, I don't know, probably some people will make a couple hours. He goes, if he said the average is something like eight hours. And I was like, that's chaos. That's chaos in the street, literally. And everybody would feel it the same way. I can't imagine specifically the United States being in that type of chaos. The amount of guns we have in this country, for example.

And I thought, I don't know, probably some people will make a couple hours. He goes, if he said the average is something like eight hours. And I was like, that's chaos. That's chaos in the street, literally. And everybody would feel it the same way. I can't imagine specifically the United States being in that type of chaos. The amount of guns we have in this country, for example.

I just think that that is, this would be apocalyptic, right? We haven't completely focused dead on to how we're going to deal with the supply chain. Yikes. And also we're growing so much food for animals rather than human consumption. And I'm not saying that's bad because we still have to feed animals.

I just think that that is, this would be apocalyptic, right? We haven't completely focused dead on to how we're going to deal with the supply chain. Yikes. And also we're growing so much food for animals rather than human consumption. And I'm not saying that's bad because we still have to feed animals.

No, I mean, look how the other disasters that have happened, whether it's the train accident or Flint, Michigan. Yep. They still have fallout because priorities shift. This is why it's so important for OT to continually beat the drum of this is a problem. This is where it needs to be fixed. If you aren't willing to fix it, you now have to accept the risk that this could potentially happen.

No, I mean, look how the other disasters that have happened, whether it's the train accident or Flint, Michigan. Yep. They still have fallout because priorities shift. This is why it's so important for OT to continually beat the drum of this is a problem. This is where it needs to be fixed. If you aren't willing to fix it, you now have to accept the risk that this could potentially happen.

And by the way, I'm not going to turn around and tell you I told you so. I'm just going to hear your report so you know. Sure. And I'm here if you need me kind of thing. Like, that's it. It's all we can do. But the fact that we have to sit on this type of knowledge all the time and go to sleep at night gets a little frustrating sometimes.

And by the way, I'm not going to turn around and tell you I told you so. I'm just going to hear your report so you know. Sure. And I'm here if you need me kind of thing. Like, that's it. It's all we can do. But the fact that we have to sit on this type of knowledge all the time and go to sleep at night gets a little frustrating sometimes.

And this is why I think as a community in OT, the fact that we all support each other so well and kind of uplift and kind of have that therapy moment, if I even want to use that term.

And this is why I think as a community in OT, the fact that we all support each other so well and kind of uplift and kind of have that therapy moment, if I even want to use that term.

um when we're together is so important because i have sat there and listened to tales and i know you have too of just stuff that's going on and obviously that we're being very respectful we don't talk about where it's happening or what's going on to have someone tell me that story and then you could see the weight lift off of them but now it's on you because you now know but like but the fact that like we can come together as a community like that i just wish the rest of the cyber community would do that right let's rally behind each other instead of just being jerks

um when we're together is so important because i have sat there and listened to tales and i know you have too of just stuff that's going on and obviously that we're being very respectful we don't talk about where it's happening or what's going on to have someone tell me that story and then you could see the weight lift off of them but now it's on you because you now know but like but the fact that like we can come together as a community like that i just wish the rest of the cyber community would do that right let's rally behind each other instead of just being jerks

That would be great. And like I said, I adore this community in general. And I love that we fit so well into the companies and the places that we serve because we're just as geeky as they are for what they do. And like I said, we all love to eat, so it should be a no-brainer there.

That would be great. And like I said, I adore this community in general. And I love that we fit so well into the companies and the places that we serve because we're just as geeky as they are for what they do. And like I said, we all love to eat, so it should be a no-brainer there.