Kristin Demoranville

Thank God they don't have to do that anymore.

Yeah, my houseplants and I have an interesting relationship for sure. Absolutely. The tribal knowledge is so important. And I'm sure a lot of people will hear this, especially in OT and ICS security. We all know that the people that have been in those facilities for 30, 40 years are your most critical assets, ultimately, because they're the ones carrying the most knowledge.

Yeah, my houseplants and I have an interesting relationship for sure. Absolutely. The tribal knowledge is so important. And I'm sure a lot of people will hear this, especially in OT and ICS security. We all know that the people that have been in those facilities for 30, 40 years are your most critical assets, ultimately, because they're the ones carrying the most knowledge.

Same goes true with the generation of farming families that are now dwindling, unfortunately. But you're right. Technology will actually make a difference when it comes to that vertical farming. It's all run on IoT. I think that the greenhouse companies are doing quite well. I know that the indoor ag space is becoming quite large, especially in the U.S.

Same goes true with the generation of farming families that are now dwindling, unfortunately. But you're right. Technology will actually make a difference when it comes to that vertical farming. It's all run on IoT. I think that the greenhouse companies are doing quite well. I know that the indoor ag space is becoming quite large, especially in the U.S.

And it's also solving some other problems like E. coli contamination runoff isn't a problem in a greenhouse setting, right? Because there's no cattle there or any other livestock that could contaminate the said lettuce. It's also, like you said, making it local. So transportation takes less time. There's less, there's just less faff, right? It's easy to get things around.

And it's also solving some other problems like E. coli contamination runoff isn't a problem in a greenhouse setting, right? Because there's no cattle there or any other livestock that could contaminate the said lettuce. It's also, like you said, making it local. So transportation takes less time. There's less, there's just less faff, right? It's easy to get things around.

And also, I think it's a skill that can be taught on an intern basis as well. You can have college students working. I mean, it solves some problems, right? It solves a lot of problems. Why aren't we doing this? Kyle, we need to start a movement right now.

And also, I think it's a skill that can be taught on an intern basis as well. You can have college students working. I mean, it solves some problems, right? It solves a lot of problems. Why aren't we doing this? Kyle, we need to start a movement right now.

I mean, and they can do it with like shipping containers, which just basically rot. I think anything you can do with a shipping container is pretty cool. Make a house, make a vertical garden, anything like that.

I mean, and they can do it with like shipping containers, which just basically rot. I think anything you can do with a shipping container is pretty cool. Make a house, make a vertical garden, anything like that.

It's just amazing that people have that ingenious way of looking at the world around them to see something instead of just trash or just waste to make it something that's functional and sometimes quite pretty. But yeah, definitely.

It's just amazing that people have that ingenious way of looking at the world around them to see something instead of just trash or just waste to make it something that's functional and sometimes quite pretty. But yeah, definitely.

Yeah, at least for like the fruits and vegetable aspect. But I mean, I'm sure they're not going to want to slaughter their own cows and things like that. I mean, that could be very detrimental to people, I suppose. But I like that idea because it teaches responsibility and appreciation for the food that you get and you have, right? It almost empowers people to care. And it's a great skill, right?

Yeah, at least for like the fruits and vegetable aspect. But I mean, I'm sure they're not going to want to slaughter their own cows and things like that. I mean, that could be very detrimental to people, I suppose. But I like that idea because it teaches responsibility and appreciation for the food that you get and you have, right? It almost empowers people to care. And it's a great skill, right?

If you know how to grow carrots and tomatoes, that helps. You can grow this on your balcony in a city, you know, or anywhere else. I used to do that. I mean, I grow herbs inside my house. I suppose that's a bit of vertical farming in itself. And it definitely is biohacking, I guess. But I think the younger generations kind of recognize this, Kyle.

If you know how to grow carrots and tomatoes, that helps. You can grow this on your balcony in a city, you know, or anywhere else. I used to do that. I mean, I grow herbs inside my house. I suppose that's a bit of vertical farming in itself. And it definitely is biohacking, I guess. But I think the younger generations kind of recognize this, Kyle.

I think that they do see that there needs to be more. But the problem is, is that the way our systems are set up, it's not set up to do that just yet. And this could be, I mean, if anybody wants to do this, please let us know. Or if you know if it's happening, please let us know. Because I think that that is such a brilliant idea and it empowers people.

I think that they do see that there needs to be more. But the problem is, is that the way our systems are set up, it's not set up to do that just yet. And this could be, I mean, if anybody wants to do this, please let us know. Or if you know if it's happening, please let us know. Because I think that that is such a brilliant idea and it empowers people.

And that empowerment in itself can help with resilience because it's not such a daunting task and doom and gloom. This is a positive moment. I think we need more of those types of wins moving forward, especially as we're having this change in labor force. In terms of technology and labor force, I've had a couple of conversations with some people in larger farms, do IT and cybersecurity.