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Or if they can automate it in some capacity, also will help. I mean, we have things like AI. I know open source is a scary thing, but that is going to help in this situation at some point, I'm sure, because it can analyze massive amounts of data, which a human being can't do. So...

Or if they can automate it in some capacity, also will help. I mean, we have things like AI. I know open source is a scary thing, but that is going to help in this situation at some point, I'm sure, because it can analyze massive amounts of data, which a human being can't do. So...

Mark, as I'm saying all that, I'm now wondering what does Manifest Cyber do in this world and how are you helping and get through this? Because clearly this is something that where everybody's going to probably either need help with or to scale up or if you're a small shop or even if you're a big shop, you're going to need a little support because again, like we said, can't boil the ocean.

Mark, as I'm saying all that, I'm now wondering what does Manifest Cyber do in this world and how are you helping and get through this? Because clearly this is something that where everybody's going to probably either need help with or to scale up or if you're a small shop or even if you're a big shop, you're going to need a little support because again, like we said, can't boil the ocean.

You can only make that cup of tea.

You can only make that cup of tea.

That's awesome.

That's awesome.

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And especially if you're doing food defense investigations or any type of food safety investigations, you will have probably at some point have to look at an SBOM just to understand what happened with the software if it ended up being some type of a cyber physical situation.

And especially if you're doing food defense investigations or any type of food safety investigations, you will have probably at some point have to look at an SBOM just to understand what happened with the software if it ended up being some type of a cyber physical situation.

And I think that's super important to be able to know where that is and be able to work with the people who can probably translate it for you because some of it won't be overly, as you say, easy to read, basically. Yeah. if some of it will be a little bit more daunting. So being able to work with those teams and knowing which teams to go to is important, too.

And I think that's super important to be able to know where that is and be able to work with the people who can probably translate it for you because some of it won't be overly, as you say, easy to read, basically. Yeah. if some of it will be a little bit more daunting. So being able to work with those teams and knowing which teams to go to is important, too.

And again, this goes back to having a strong third party management team that is actually knows your business and what you're doing. And that's that's super important. You know, you touched on this a bit, Mark, that we isolate a lot inside of our different silos, of course.

And again, this goes back to having a strong third party management team that is actually knows your business and what you're doing. And that's that's super important. You know, you touched on this a bit, Mark, that we isolate a lot inside of our different silos, of course.

And I think it's really frustrating to me that a lot of times when you work in certain aspects of security, you actually don't even really understand what the company is doing or what they are. Are they a manufacturing company? Are they an entertainment company? Are they a food company? Or what are they?

And I think it's really frustrating to me that a lot of times when you work in certain aspects of security, you actually don't even really understand what the company is doing or what they are. Are they a manufacturing company? Are they an entertainment company? Are they a food company? Or what are they?