Krystal Ball

Yeah, and I really admire what he's done in the state. I think it's remarkable. Here he is, governor of Kentucky, a state that has trended dramatically to the right, and he's the most popular Democratic governor in the country.

You can't look at that and say, oh, this guy doesn't have a chance whatsoever. Obviously, he's doing some things right. he's doing some things right. Now, if we go back to, and let me make the bull case for him, and then I'll tell you, you know, my skepticism, which is a little bit similar to yours, but, you know, the bull case for him is he really is kind of the polar opposite of Trump.

You can't look at that and say, oh, this guy doesn't have a chance whatsoever. Obviously, he's doing some things right. he's doing some things right. Now, if we go back to, and let me make the bull case for him, and then I'll tell you, you know, my skepticism, which is a little bit similar to yours, but, you know, the bull case for him is he really is kind of the polar opposite of Trump.

You can't look at that and say, oh, this guy doesn't have a chance whatsoever. Obviously, he's doing some things right. he's doing some things right. Now, if we go back to, and let me make the bull case for him, and then I'll tell you, you know, my skepticism, which is a little bit similar to yours, but, you know, the bull case for him is he really is kind of the polar opposite of Trump.

You know, it comes off as this kind of like,

You know, it comes off as this kind of like,

You know, it comes off as this kind of like,

know humble guy he's not um not super flashy you know here he is doing the work in a a difficult place that's you know had his share of ups and downs etc and you know really has tried to be in touch with the people here and still for his values too in ways that could have been politically difficult for him here in the state so i think that's the bull case for him the the challenge for him is you know we're talking about this new media ecosystem and you got to be able to go on and

know humble guy he's not um not super flashy you know here he is doing the work in a a difficult place that's you know had his share of ups and downs etc and you know really has tried to be in touch with the people here and still for his values too in ways that could have been politically difficult for him here in the state so i think that's the bull case for him the the challenge for him is you know we're talking about this new media ecosystem and you got to be able to go on and

know humble guy he's not um not super flashy you know here he is doing the work in a a difficult place that's you know had his share of ups and downs etc and you know really has tried to be in touch with the people here and still for his values too in ways that could have been politically difficult for him here in the state so i think that's the bull case for him the the challenge for him is you know we're talking about this new media ecosystem and you got to be able to go on and

You'll have a three-hour conversation with some podcaster, et cetera. And I still feel like he has a lot of that caution in him.

You'll have a three-hour conversation with some podcaster, et cetera. And I still feel like he has a lot of that caution in him.

You'll have a three-hour conversation with some podcaster, et cetera. And I still feel like he has a lot of that caution in him.

I tried to grab him at the DNC, and he was like, no. I'm just kidding. He's like.

I tried to grab him at the DNC, and he was like, no. I'm just kidding. He's like.

I tried to grab him at the DNC, and he was like, no. I'm just kidding. He's like.

I've tried to get him on our show. You know, he just won't do it. It's always a no. And like you said, like you're not going to talk to us anymore. Yeah, I mean, we're on your side, and you're not... Yeah, I mean, like, he really knows you.

I've tried to get him on our show. You know, he just won't do it. It's always a no. And like you said, like you're not going to talk to us anymore. Yeah, I mean, we're on your side, and you're not... Yeah, I mean, like, he really knows you.

I've tried to get him on our show. You know, he just won't do it. It's always a no. And like you said, like you're not going to talk to us anymore. Yeah, I mean, we're on your side, and you're not... Yeah, I mean, like, he really knows you.

I think Andy, to me, he seems like he's a preparer, which I relate to. I'm the same way. He wants to know, okay, what are the questions going to be? How long is it going to go? What are the answers that I have planned out? And if it's outside of that, then it really feels like it's outside of his comfort zone. And so I think, I think he has gotten better. I noticed that too.