Kunal Bhatia

And, you know, they've got a decent amount of market share.

So if you're not using them and you're not bringing them from job to job, it's like, you know, no one's going to get fired by using Cvent or Visible or, you know, Salesforce.

Yeah, right now we're staying bootstrapped and that's the intention to go for as long as possible.

If we see some reason that we should be raising, we may pursue it, but that's not in the cards right now.

Oh, that's got to be Ben Horowitz's The Hard Thing About Hard Things.

And my next book from him is waiting at my doorstep at my parents' house in Boston.

Yes.

I mean, the one that I'm following now is Ted Blaser from WorkRamp.

I did a short stint with WorkRamp and learned a lot from them.

Going to be really excited to see where WorkRamp is heading in the next year.

Oh, I mean, yeah, that's that's easy for them.

I'm not sure exactly revenue numbers right now, but they have very large enterprise customers.

They're all Xbox early hires.

So they've been there, done that.

They've failed on their own startups before that.

So they're like very seasoned.

They know what they're doing.

And for this stage where they're at like 30 employees now, they're well north of where most startups would be.

And they're raised from Bo Capital.

So they're in good company, initialized capital, all of them as well.