Kunal Bhatia

So you're halfway there.

Halfway there.

Almost zero because we, you know, had to shut down.

But we had.

It just didn't make sense for me personally.

You know, I wasn't growing anymore personally, wasn't learning as much.

We were just, you know, hitting, you know, pushing a boulder up the hill, which wasn't worth pushing in the conference organizer space.

And I can go into more details there about why that sales cycle is really tough.

But, you know, we were all kind of exhausted there.

And so, you know, until the enterprise pilots didn't come in and re-energize the team, it was a pretty rough year last year.

Yeah, I think in general, the event market, event tech market is a very unloved space.

Um, I think, uh, everyone knows Cvent, everyone knows Bizabo, but that's sort of a necessary evil.

You know, I personally came from the healthcare market and it's kind of like Epic.

Everyone knows Epic, but they hate to use it.

Same reason, Epic, same reason for, you know, Salesforce.

These are like form written products.

Like you have to fill out multiple pages of long forms.

And it doesn't really help you do your job any better.

It's just, you know, everyone's on there.

So you have to be on there as well.