Kyle Bukauskas

And he goes, he goes, yeah, now that Marty's made it to the NHL, he's like, it's ruined it for every other U14 coach.

Cause they think they're just one phone call away from getting to the NHL.

Yeah.

One of the great net front guys in the history of the game and had the ability to still be an effective player, like right up to the bitter end those last few years in Dallas.

He was still productive and

Clearly, I mean, one phone call to Tomasz Hertel and now he's a completely different guy from where he was over the drought that preceded it.

So, okay, Pavelski now, add that to the list and the watch in Toronto.

Anything else in Toronto?

I mean, as we're watching what John Tortorella is doing with Vegas here, would you kind of put LaViolette in a similar camp as wanting to coach a team that's in the try to win now mode?

Like, I guess we're still kind of looking at Los Angeles.

I know they snuck into the playoffs this year of kind of where they ultimately see themselves going.

In the future, in the near term, we know it's going to be the first season post-Anze Kopitar.

Is Laviolette, you think, the kind of guy that is thinking more a win-now environment than maybe a bit more of a project over multiple years?

Or is it too early to know?

I mean, you talked last spot about just, yeah.

One of the, the really neat parts of doing this gig is having a conversation with a Shane Goss's bear type after a game of like, okay, what did you see and getting the full breakdown?

And I've always enjoyed over the years, the chance to just ask, um,

questions to Peter Laviolette about the game, about different players because he's, his insights and the way he can.

The way he can describe things.

Yeah.