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Kyle Harper

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

Huge amounts of the population are dying of this horrible sudden disease and the crops don't grow.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And you don't have microbiology and you don't have climatology.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

So you explain it in the โ€“ with the resources of the worldview you have.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And there's a huge burst of like apocalyptic thought in the 6th and 7th century, which is always kind of there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

I mean you mentioned that Christianity's eschatological โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

It is, yes, fundamentally.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

But like that comes out in different ways with different sort of emphases and different time periods.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

And this is a period, the 6th century, when there's a really sharp emphasis on eschatology in Christian thought.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

I mean, first of all, like I think this is like the sort of question that historians ought to worry about all the time.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

Like we ought to be thinking about why didn't the Roman economy catalyze the takeoff?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

Because in some ways it โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

It was so precocious for its time period, and it seems not utterly impossible, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

The Roman world is still a pre-industrial economy, so agriculture is the dominant sector.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

The majority of people work in agricultural pursuits, and productivity is low.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

They don't have modern mechanized traction.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

They don't have modern synthetic fertilizers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

They don't have the modern โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

Green revolution yields, all the things that have made agriculture stupendously productive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Why Rome Actually Fell: Plagues, Slavery, & Ice Age โ€” Kyle Harper

So just like the primary sector is fairly limited in terms of its productivity because of the sort of limitations on technical inputs.