Kyle MacDonald

I mean, I'm certainly not going to be blameless in this.

I really struggle if someone has a really polarized, different view than me.

But I think the best thing that we can do is actually try and understand whether that's in the conversation or try to understand from the point of view of thinking about why does this person see the world this way?

What is it that is different for them from my circumstances?

because often the ability to have a view, to understand the world, is actually kind of a privilege.

Most people are generally just worried about getting enough gas in the tank and balancing the budget, and it's really understandable people are reactive about that because it's pretty tricky.

The evidence is that anxiety is on the rise worldwide, which is not a surprise, but I think that, again...

Coming back to our own side of the street, how do we actually then just deal with that in our own day to day life?

And sometimes it might be helpful.

You know, one of the strategies we often talk about with world events is finding a way to do something that means something to you to get engaged.

So that might be going to a protest.

It might be, you know, joining a political party or supporting particular causes.

But actually, it's also OK to not do that.

So, again, it's figuring out what works for you.

Well, yeah, and it's hard, isn't it?

Because that's the whole machine of social media.

I think the challenge is recognising that that is helping nobody.

Especially not himself.

And likely achieving nothing.

I'm sure you have, but you can point them at the research that says that arguing with people actually just reinforces their beliefs, not changes their mind.