Lael Stone

There's times where I don't have capacity.

There's times where I'm like, I don't want to play with you and I don't want to listen to your feelings because I've got my own stuff going on.

And I think that's why we have to be so kind and compassionate to ourselves and

And, you know, there's that kind of thing they talk about in parenting.

If you're getting it right 30% of the time, then you're doing well.

I mean, I don't know about that.

I feel like it needs to be a little bit more.

But, you know, if we're majority of the time we're turning up and you've got that story that goes, hey, they're there and they've got my back and, you know, I feel deeply loved, then that's a good thing.

But there's no perfect within it, right?

I would love you both to kind of talk a little bit about making mistakes, how that was in our house.

Did you feel like you couldn't make a mistake?

You had to get it right?

What was that like for you guys?

I think that ties into what we were talking about earlier in that it was there was always this baseline knowing that at the end of the day if something was to happen it's okay and that it would be met with like care as opposed to what have you done and you've messed up there was always that safety around that but that still doesn't mean that it wasn't scary like I think but that's just being a young person and doing something wrong and

But I think a lot of that pressure, I guess, was more so from myself or from the other people around me.

And, you know, like being – we had the relationship, we did, but there were still things that I'm not always going to talk to you guys about, as you also encouraged.

Like we have our own lives, we are our own humans.

But I think in terms of mistakes, there was definitely – I mean, any time you muck up on anything, that feels big.

But –

if anything, there was times where I was excited to talk to you about it.