Landon Ray

support and we didn't have an implementation team and we didn't, and the app was hard to use.

Sure.

And, and over time we've, um, you know, dramatically improved all that.

And so we've been able to afford to, uh, to, to, to, um, offer our product for less money to, to, you know, get closer and closer to serving, um, you know, everybody.

Um,

Well, I could give you some numbers that are a little bit older, which would probably be about $400 a month.

But we've also just released a free product called EntrePages, which is our first free product, which is a landing page builder.

And that is certainly going to skew those numbers because those number, you know, those customer numbers are getting big.

Well, I was, I mean, it's lower because of this free product.

Um, it's yeah, there's a, there's a lot of, uh, we're over 10,000, well over 10,000.

If you add, uh, in entrepages customers.

Let's see, if you want to talk about paying customers, it's probably more in the order of like 6,000.

Well, we have, remember, we have products now down to, we have products down to, you know, $79 for at Entreport and even down to 15 bucks for Entrepage's premium.

So, yeah.

We also have customers that pay us a lot more than $600 a month because we're a full service email service provider, which gets expensive if you're selling, sending, you know, tens of millions of emails a month.

Totally, yeah.

Oh man, let's see the hardest thing to overcome.

There's so, I mean, entrepreneurship, uh, to me is like a series of, of challenges and problems.

Like, uh, there's so many hard things that we've had to overcome.

Um, staying, staying profitable, uh, while trying to grow a software as a service business is a, is an extraordinary challenge.