Larry Birkhead

Yeah, her mom called.

Because her mom was trying to fight to take the baby from Anna at the time.

Well, it was just weird.

Or saying that she, like, Anna's in no shape.

And at that time, though, to backtrack, I think she was more doing, like, a lot of press stuff.

It wasn't until Anna died she was trying to actually take the baby.

But they had, there was a lot of stuff going on between Anna and, you know, she said she rang the doorbell.

Anna said, get lost.

You know, that whole thing that was...

Yeah.

Never.

And when she went to the Bahamas, I'll say this, um,

Daniel back home had started experimenting with drugs with college kids.

He just started driving.

He got out and he was, you know, and before she left and when things were good, she was telling me, go downstairs and talk to Daniel.

He didn't bring the car home.

And she was having me assume like the dad role, you know, that Howard was out working on the case and stuff.

I was thrown into that position too.

And I was like,

Okay, let me just go down.