Larry Birkhead

And this is the game that people play.

But, um, so anyway, so out of like, you know, when Daniel hadn't been, uh, buried the, the weddings going on this, all this stuff, there's every night you flip a channel.

So I had sent the baby Christmas presents and I really, um,

it was a point where I was like, okay, I'm going to try to send this.

I don't know if she's going to accept them.

I bought a bunch of clothes, stuff, and I put a note in there for her and I said, it was with a DVD.

It was the movie, The Grinch That Stole Christmas.

And I said, just, and it was kind of a joke, but kind of me like saying, hey,

you stole my Christmas with my daughter, but I was like, Hey, um, Hey Grinch, hope you're doing well.

And just want to help, please give these to the baby.

And, you know, and so, um, I called her and it was during this whole thing where I was accused of sexual harassment and stuff.

And I was like, um, did you, uh, and she was, it was one of the best conversations we had

And I said, did you get the presents?

Yeah, I got them.

And she went through stuff and I was like, and I was so nervous because I was like, are you going to let her wear them?

And yes.

And I tried to talk a little bit vague because if I said something forward, she was going to say yes.

she thought I was trapping her, but I actually, honestly, unfortunately had to record the phone calls.

So I was nervous.

Yeah, I was nervous.