Larry Birkhead

I don't know if it was the best attention, but I got her attention because I said to her, and we were still talking even after I filed a lawsuit against her.

Nobody really wanted us to talk, but I was still talking to her.

Because I still thought in my mind, there's a way to- You loved her.

Well, there's a way to fix this.

And I knew, because I knew, and I said this, and there's hours of this stuff, no one's heard these calls and stuff.

But I was telling you in one of the calls, I do say to her, if you know, and I know if I was in front of you right now, this wouldn't be happening.

If you were in the same room with me, I said, you've been pushed away from me and you're listening to people that are telling you things to do.

And it's getting you in a lot of trouble.

And I'm like, and we went back and forth about that.

And there was a point where, um,

she was gonna come back and we talked about it.

She, you know, still kind of a little cocky, you know?

And I said, look, Anna,

I didn't say the word Daniel, but I say, we're both losers here.

And I said, I don't know my daughter, you lost your son.

And I was like, fuck, don't say Daniel.

And I was like, but that, and that was bold for me to say, you know, cause I was like, I was avoiding it.

And she said, Larry, how am I a loser?

I'm the second most searched person in the world right now.

And it was still about the press.