Laura Henshaw

Yeah, I agree.

And if you don't learn in that way, our school system really doesn't serve you well.

And I think what's really difficult is that you – no matter how you learn, you still get a score that –

Really, like we are told defines who we are, our like worthiness.

And I think that's really, I feel like from conversations of some parents I've spoken to, I feel like it is changing a little bit in how we think about that.

But I think it is, and especially where we went through school was like a really big thing.

For anyone who is listening, Steffi, and thinking that they're really struggling with their confidence right now and don't feel good enough, which I feel like we all feel through so many stages of our lives.

What has been the biggest thing for you that has helped you get to like the place you are in now?

Because I think when we're in that place where we feel like our opinion is worthless, what's the point of giving it?

We're not good enough.

This person is more whatever, is more like, when I say in quotation marks academic, like we're all, it really depends in what environment you are, right?

For sure.

Um, how, what's been the kind of catalyst for you recently to be able to work through that?

Because I feel like so many people listening would be like, oh my God, I want, like, I wonder if it could help me.

Honestly, like... Which, for anyone listening, just quickly on what SPE is.

Sorry, yes.

When... Well, how would you explain it?

It's like a business accelerator kind of... I wouldn't say course per se, but almost like a conference you go through over... You do like a three-day intensive.

Yeah.

And then it's like an eight-week program.