Laura Henshaw

Because I think when we're in that place where we feel like our opinion is worthless, what's the point of giving it?

We're not good enough.

This person is more whatever, is more like, when I say in quotation marks academic, like we're all, it really depends in what environment you are, right?

For sure.

Um, how, what's been the kind of catalyst for you recently to be able to work through that?

Because I feel like so many people listening would be like, oh my God, I want, like, I wonder if it could help me.

Honestly, like... Which, for anyone listening, just quickly on what SPE is.

Sorry, yes.

When... Well, how would you explain it?

It's like a business accelerator kind of... I wouldn't say course per se, but almost like a conference you go through over... You do like a three-day intensive.

Yeah.

And then it's like an eight-week program.

And at that stage that we did it, we were looking at growth into international markets.

So that was kind of where the focus was.

I couldn't.

Change room.

Yeah, 100%.

And they...

and got in.

So technically they meet this body standard that has been pushed on us that is obviously unattainable for 99.99999% and also probably a lot of them as well.