Laura Karstensen
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21 appearances
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first heard Sep 2023
last heard Sep 2023
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There are very few people who can work 40 years and save enough money to not work for another 30.
Well, there's no question that the people who are going to experience it most profoundly are the people who are just entering the workforce now.
So it's young people who are going to anticipate much longer working lives than people who are older today.
Well, there's nothing magic about 65 or 60 or any other number.
And today, most jobs are based on knowledge.
So if we look at knowledge workers, in many jobs, the evidence suggests that we're peaking in our late 60s or early 70s.
So the idea that we should be leaving the workforce based on an outdated norm is something that we need to wrestle with.
People often think about the brain as being most affected by aging.
Short of diseases like dementia, the brain is relatively spared as an organ system.
Much more targeted are muscles and bones.
So we become weaker.
Our bones are more frail.
But for healthy people, there are very few changes in the brain or cognitive processing that would affect one's ability to do work.
When you ask people today who are working past 65 why they're working past 65, about half of them say because they need the money, and the other half say because they love their work.
The current way we parse our lives is into thirds where we have early life focused on education, middle life focused on work, and then the end of life is on leisure.
How about instead if we weave education and leisure and work throughout our lives?
When we start to do that, working for 60 years sounds a lot more pleasant.
If we can trade
retirement age at 65 for, let's say, 30 hour work weeks and six hour days, but working more years, it starts to sound a lot more appealing.
If we can find ways to let people work more and less throughout different stages and ages of their lives,
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