Laura Kuenssberg

She's been talking to police officers, many of them privately, in the last few days because people don't necessarily want to talk publicly about these difficult issues.

And I just want to read one of them's quote to Sima.

She's written a really interesting piece on the website.

She said, we've had several reports about, this is a police officer talking to her, she's quoting, we have several reports about how racist we are in the last few years when it comes to black people and Asian people.

So we're very cautious when handling cases involving different races.

And so what happened in Southampton is easy to see why.

Maybe we are too cautious now.

And one of the interesting things, Danny, about this week is that reform has expanded the argument they're making, not just to be about two-tier policing, as they call it.

And it's worth noting the Shadow Home Secretary, Chris Philp, who used to be the police minister, also says that two-tier policing is real.

But reform has expanded it using the Novak case to make a broader argument that actually exists.

suggests that white people in general are now losing out to ethnic minorities.

And this is exactly what Nigel Farage has said about this.

He said, and I quote, we're living in a two-tier culture in this country where the rights and privileges of white people matter less than those of ethnic minorities.

And that's a very dramatic claim to make.

But it's interesting, Danny, this has become so hot politically and

reform are using this to tap into what they know is a sentiment among some of their base which you hear now you hear it back from focus groups or if you hear it if you're out and about talking to some voters and a belief that uh white communities have been somehow ignored because of political correctness or if you look at the education statistics around white boys in school particularly they're trying to tie it into this bigger conversation um

For us to correct a historic wrong have ended up with pockets of things ending up which nobody would have wanted in the first place.

So there are going to be various different reviews already.

We know that the police chiefs are reviewing that guidance.

The government has said some of the language is wrong.