Laura Perkes

Is that just like an inner confidence that you've always had?

Or have you kind of learned to be more confident in your conviction?

Would you?

It comes with kind of I don't want to say age and wisdom, but kind of experience.

The longer you've been in the game, the more you realize, you know what, this isn't for me to make right now.

Yeah, totally.

And I kind of love that approach.

And this is one thing that I do a lot is I protect my peace because, you know, rightly or wrongly, we have disagreements with people or we work with people and it's not the best relationship.

And you kind of see how they operate behind the scenes.

And then I've struggled in the past where friends of mine have then gone on to work with that person.

And I've been like, this really hurts my heart that I'm staying silent.

But all that's going to happen is online tit for tat.

And quite frankly, I don't want to invite that into my inbox.

It feels like it's injustice, but equally, people have to make their own decisions.

Because again, where we are in our life cycle, where we are in our monthly cycle, whatever's going on around us can influence how we respond to behave in any given moment.

So going back to that Forbes, the four page in Forbes, I mean, honestly, people would probably pay millions.

So that was something that you secured yourself.

How long did you do your own PR before you decided, you know what, it's time for me to now bring in an expert?

Yeah.

I mean, obviously I'm a huge advocate for that, but equally I say to people, pitch yourself, even if it's just a couple of times.