Laura Perkes

I'm your host, Laura Perks.

And today we're going to be having a slightly different conversation because up until this point, I've very much been talking to you about the power of visibility, the power of PR, becoming niche famous, being seen, heard, hired and paid as the authority, all the juicy stuff.

But it would be very naive of me to gatekeep what can often happen on the other side of that increased visibility.

So my guest today has very kindly said that she would come on and share her experiences because I know from being connected with her on socials and seeing her posts that she does often get a lot of the negative side of being in the press.

However, it doesn't stop her.

So without further ado, Maddy Alexander-Graut, welcome to the podcast.

I'm sure.

And correct me if I'm wrong, that sounds like a Daily Mail headline.

This is it.

It's almost like if that is what is attracting my ideal clients into my business, then we can fight the narrative.

But if sick fluencer is what is memorable...

then yeah and i think the way the way you've coped with it as well because so many people i think worry that it's going to cause a downward spiral and then they're going to have you know nasty comments online which to be fair is kind of part of the parcel nowadays anyway well let's talk about the nasty comments shall we so um i was always told whenever i got pr don't look at the comments because

yeah and you almost have to bring light to it otherwise it is gonna get worse yes um is is that do you think down to your personality or because I know a lot of people will say you know oh it's a mindset thing or it's your beliefs and your self-confidence but you're spinning it in a way that it's becoming light-hearted and fun is that just an integral skill that you have

I've actually got a contact at this morning, so we should talk.

And that's the thing with, with news programs, you know, if something, if breaking news comes in, if world news comes in, if the queen dies, everything stops.

They don't want to let people down, but they are governed by what is going on in the world.

I mean, annoying in the moment, but equally, it's all... Have pride over it.

Yeah, it's like they'll come back when the time's right.

I mean, but that's a beautiful way of looking at it because you know that it is delivering the right message to the right person at the right time.

And again, I think for me as well and everybody listening, if the mission and the purpose is bigger than you as a person, sometimes you have to just swallow your pride a little bit and make the moves that are going to get you to where you need to go faster than if you were to turn it down.