Laurel van der Toorn

It's that kind of like moderation thing.

And like experiment with having a similar conversation with a human.

It's not going to go the same way, but it will build up your tolerance and decrease the discomfort you feel in the human reactions.

And obviously you want to be talking to like a person that you would like to build up safety and trust with, not someone you know is not safe or trustworthy.

But that's really the only way to decrease social anxiety is to basically do exposure therapy and see what it's like to have difficult conversations and have them go fine.

Oh, I think that the therapists that are going to succeed are the therapists that are going to learn to work with it.

So helping people understand like, yeah, this is what it's really great at and what it's useful for.

And I love that it just helped you come up with a self-care plan for the rest of the week.

That's great because...

maybe that's not worth your time in therapy.

So it can be a helpful adjunct.

And I'm actually really excited to see how AI is used as an adjunct for certain treatment modalities that we don't have the time to go into here.

But I think that it has the power to enhance therapy when used well.

Happy to be here.

Yeah.

I would be very curious about this mom's money story, right?

We all have a money story, whether it's growing up poor, growing up, being confused about your family's financial standing.

Family has varying financial standards, right?

So mom is coming into this with her own emotional relationship with money.

And then superimposing that on daughter and daughter's kind of freaking out.