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Laurel van der Toorn

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1424 total appearances

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The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

Maybe the agreement needed to be updated.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

And that's why there was this excessive criticism that something didn't feel fair to mom.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

Every family has their own understanding of what is fair and how contribution to a household works.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

I've been talking a lot with clients lately about the value of domestic labor, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

That I think it's very undervalued.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

Someone that is doing the lion's share of the work at home is not being financially compensated, but that sure is one heck of a contribution because if you were to pay someone else to do all those things, it would cost a pretty penny.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

That's so culturally specific.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

I think that, you know, the kind of the American way of individual, you know, individualism, we would say no.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

And there are some cultures where that it would be a sign of disrespect to not share that information.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

So not knowing what culture this mom and daughter are from, I don't want to cast a judgment on it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

But I'm curious about the cultural background.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

Well, you know, this brings up the issue that millennials and Gen Z, like very few of us made it without any help from our family post high school, post college, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

Like the...

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

It is so normal now for people to move back home for a little bit or get some financial support or have some kind of like hybrid agreement just because being an adult and being financially independent has gotten so much more difficult than it was historically.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

And some parents are really great at recognizing how difficult that is, and some are not.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

I think that that can be explicitly negotiated, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

That as adults, you can enter into an agreement.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

And I think that we run into trouble when there isn't an explicit agreement.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

I lived at home in my twenties for a bit.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Laurel van der Toorn: Mom Judging Your Bank Account - January 23, 2026

And the understanding was that I would cover a certain dollar amount of the groceries.