Laurence Holmes

Exactly.

And I'm trying to get Gabe to realize, raise your standards, bro.

It doesn't have to be like this.

Raise your standards to where Cubs fans' standards are, that they are complaining.

Don't most fan bases bond with each other about how tortured they are?

It's called trauma bonding is the term you're looking for.

And look, I saw this when the Red Sox eventually won.

And my dad, my late father, rest in peace, Herb.

It did not take him long to get back to same old Red Sox.

And I'd be like, my dude, they won in 04.

They won in 07.

They won in 13.

They won in 18.

They won four times in your lifetime.

They're not going to be winning much any time soon.

And if my dad were alive, he'd say, same old Red Sox.

They break your heart.

Like there's something there that is appetizing to people consciously or not.

Let me tie it to the Blackhawks.

for a second connor bedard at his farewell press conference or the exit press conference whatever said you know this is the last year of us not you know it's not we're obviously we're trying to win but it's the last year of it being okay that we're not a playoff team like at some point some people say this year wasn't okay but the point is at some point that needs to change white socks that needs to change next year