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Laurent Le Moal

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
246 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

I mean, I remember the day I had to go to the shop and buy, you know, my first, you know, compact pizza rack.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

It was 97, 97.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

I was 25.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

25.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

Yeah, that was cool because I had just an ISDN connection.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

The thing is, it was really easy to

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

really would find you out so you know the cpa the click model etc not much existed but anyway um the reality of that is we did the classic you know boom and bust of this year so really raising money with um how much with some good vcs at the time it was the equivalent now of five million euro for our first round okay

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

The thing is, we never went past the first round because at one point, you know, this 5 billion euro in that time, by the way, it was billions of lira at that time.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

It was pre-euro.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

You know, we started to spend it in classical marketing, advertising, and so on.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

So basically, the boom and then the bust.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

You have to, you know, fire the people you've hired, etc.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

And you grew it big, right?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

Oh yeah, that was just in Italy, but then, you know, we opened subsidiary in France, in Spain, we did a joint venture with Portugal Telecom.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

I mean, it was growing pretty fast, but, you know, first lesson for me is the P&L of a company does not change at all, new economy or not.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

The second thing is cash is still essential if you can't raise.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

And this is what happened basically when we did our second round in the year 2000.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

People are still recovering from that.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

You couldn't raise money.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

So, you know, when I am today in India and I see companies with a very, very high burn rate.