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Well, I, yeah, I think just to unpack that point a little bit more, I always think

the punters and people, all of us who watch combat sports, particularly boxing, don't really understand what an absolute chess match it is, how intelligent you have to be to coordinate range, your feet, what this person's doing, and it's a constant equation that's changing.

For your last fight,

what was the equation in that match for you personally?

If we can talk a little bit X's and O's here, because we see the hand raised and people move on, but I'm interested from your viewpoint, talk through the rounds.

What was she showing you?

You've got new ideas to go on attack.

That's my part in this equation.

I feel seen and I see you, my sister.

We're so important.

I actually turned 36 today.

Yes, you will.

You've got some fights now, eh?

I love that.

No, you know, it's important to hear that because what I hear is that your life reflects a certain set of values and a certain amount of reps and hard work that you're confident to speak like that.

And I think I'd love for that, I'd love for, as an audience, especially in New Zealand, to allow more athletes to talk like how you're talking.

Was it a bit smack?

No, no, no.

I'm encouraging, because I feel like we always try and filter that.

Ooh, she's pretty confident.