Lee Phelps

I haven't seen them do it before.

Don't need to do that.

If I'm having a bet on that, I'd rather go City because I've seen them do it before.

Like you just said, I know they've got that in their capabilities.

So I'd rather back them at odds against, maybe not 6-4 because they've been a bigger price than that.

But I'd rather back them with the experience rather than a team who've never done it.

And they're not exactly blowing everyone away at the moment, Arsenal either, are they?

So great run in there.

And I think they drifted out to like threes and fours, I think.

Maybe a little bit bigger than that, but there's not been a huge price, but very backable though.

Well, no, probably not.

You'd think they'd have enough about them, but like the form's poor, isn't it?

They were as short as nine to two.

They're now 11 to two.

Now I checked back and the records aren't quite as good, uh,

back in 2008 as they are now in terms of, you know, the internet.

But with the help of ChatGPT and a few other things, I managed to kind of look back on that 2008 start to the season when Juan de Ramos had a disaster and was sacked by October, hadn't won a game by then, they were rock bottom.

And I think the shortest price they were around there that I could find was around five to one.

So that nine to two was the shortest price they'd been at least since 2008 for relegation.

Obviously, Harry came in and rescued them that time.