Lennart Heim

They can use ChatGPT, right?

So it really depends where on the value chain you want to intervene.

What the US government wants to do is like, hey, you shouldn't be able to build your own competitive big systems and, like, make human rights abuse and a bunch of other nasty stuff with it.

You want to use AI, which is, like, monitored by us, and, like, again, you cannot build biological weapons with it.

Sure, go for it.

That's fine, right?

And I think that's the best way to think about it.

And

here again the key is chips can't go into China they can access cloud computing right now without any restrictions and any engineer it's not like I need a computer like in my basement to train a model I go to a cloud provider so right now they can't technically do it you're totally right they're the whims of the US government if they decide tomorrow to cut them off the cloud

That's a problem.

But again, that's historically been the case for the monetary system the same.

This is just how national security works and how you try to govern, right?

And those things are trying to be balanced.

But I think eventually we can find a good middle ground here.

And ideally, it's not only the U.S.

doing all of this.

It's the U.S.

and its allies and partners with the semiconductor industry, the key allies there, building a broader multilateral AI governance framework.

We just build it with democratic values.

That's at least what I'm aspiring to.