Leo R. Chavez

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1,192 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 20 Dec

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And you're not going to find people from Northern Europe who want to do that.

But to have white South Africans who are really, are they really oppressed?

But the black South Africans, I've been to South Africa.

It's still an extremely apartheid type of place, right?

And it's almost like saying, well, the white slave owners in the South are the ones who should have amnesty, not the black slaves.

And a lot of people think that makes sense, unfortunately.

All the world countries are not going to be able to come here anymore.

Right.

And those who are here who don't fit in, who aren't really part of us, we're going to try and get rid of.

And I think that's the whole basis for all this diminishing of the kind of guarantees of citizenship.

People who are not white have thought they enjoyed and suddenly finding, wait a minute, I'm not enjoying these anymore.

What's going on?

So we'll see.

As you say, we'll see what happens.

I mean, when are we going to see what happens?

How long is it going to take to see what happens?

We've got 40 more years of this.

So it's really going to be interesting to see where this goes.

No, sure.

I think it's...

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