Les Velez

Right.

That is either, you know, some type of interface with consciousness or some type of, you know, extraterrestrial or like off-planet being.

And that is so tremendous to me and such an interesting prospect that there's a chance that what's happening is truly unexplainable that I...

Must explore it.

So how do you discern when you're talking to someone that they're not one of the former two categories and that what they're experiencing is truly unexplored?

Right, and that was discerned through conversation and analysis from a psychologist?

And what percentage of them had no underlying psychological issue?

Nobody.

Wow.

Nobody.

Environmentalism is a strong theme.

We need a few world leaders to get abducted.

Yes, exactly.

Yes, yes.

I can name a few, but we won't do that now.

So you have this study that discerns if someone is pathological in some way.

Now, how do you assess if they're lying?

Because many people will just say, oh, these guys are lying.

They're trying to get attention, trying to get rich.

Now, full transparency, I've spoken with people that I don't get the sense are lying.