Les Velez

And when they share their experience with me, it's truly unbelievable, but I don't think they're lying.

So I'm curious, how do you assess that?

Is there some type of criteria or heuristic, or is it just your own personal assessment?

I mean, that's pretty funny.

Yeah.

To be in an experiencer support group and be like, hey, you're out of line.

When I got abducted, here's what I saw.

If you didn't see this, you're crazy.

Right, yeah.

Sure, sure.

So I struggle with this specific issue for a few reasons.

One, I don't deal in absolutes where I really try to avoid absolute certainty because I've been proven wrong and made to look very stupid very many times.

So if you're asking me, do aliens exist, extraterrestrials, non-human intelligence, I'm going to say almost certainly.

Have they visited Earth in a physical capacity?

This is where I'm like, it's difficult and challenging for me to really get on board with because I've never experienced it.

And I don't know that many people that have experienced it in a very intimate way.

I've had friends that have done CE5 and seen some kind of aberrations in their vision, things like that.

But the idea of some type of consciousness thing is much more compelling to me.

So I spoke with a friend who,

was having these experiences with abduction and these beings entering into his room.