Leslie John
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There's something really real about them, and they can be really helpful in many ways.
One simple way we've shown this is where, look at the people you follow on social media.
How well do you know them?
And then I asked, how well do they know you?
And then I asked, by the way, do any of these people actually follow you?
And almost none of them are.
But yet, the degree to which I think that I know you is super strongly correlated with the degree to which I think you know me.
Like one symptom of this is if a fan comes up to you and they like start telling you super personal stuff as if you're in, that's what you do in a relationship.
Like I'm sure that's happened to you.
Does it get annoying?
They don't reveal the way you two do.
You're a little mortified.
Yeah.
So it's so weird to have experienced both.
And now that we're talking about it here, do they know each other?
What's the next move?
Yes.
The illusion.
The illusion?
Yes.