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Leslie John

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
916 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

It's funny, Jen, that you should ask because a month before I married your father, I was actually having similar doubts.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

And, oh, I'm so glad I went ahead with marrying him because look how happy we are.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

Look at how great our marriage is.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

And she said, like, Jen, I know you.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

You struggle to make decisions.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

You question everything.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

But sometimes you just โ€“ if it feels right, you got to go with it.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

And so Jennifer took a lot of comfort in that phone call.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

And what she thought was, yeah, I already have โ€“ my love with Philip is already the mature kind.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

Passionate love fades.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

What's really special and important is the mature kind, the kind that my mother has always had with my father.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

And so a month later, Jennifer and Philip were married.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

Five very complicated years later, they were divorced.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

It was an email chain that originated between Donna and her husband.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

So it was a private between the two of them.

Hidden Brain
Keeping Secrets

And they ended up what they started talking about was a very private, sensitive thing.