Leslie John

Again, it doesn't mean my childhood or my parents were bad or wrong.

They do stand up the tools to teach me these things.

I need to learn how to emotionally evolve so that I can have better intimacy relationships with my partner, with my children, with friends.

That'll break you open.

I don't think people should get divorced.

I think you should go through a process of onboarding your relationship so you're in alignment with the right values.

And it doesn't mean it's always going to work out.

But doing that before saying, let's just get married.

But then also-

You said it, not me.

That was courageous and oversharing that.

So tell her that I want to act on, you know, being with other men before your marriage.

Wow.

And, um, in your mind, are you thinking your parents should have stayed married?

Yeah.

And then once I- When did you know we weren't meant to be together in the marriage?

Like right after getting married?

Whoa.

And so over the years- You never spoke to her for 10 years about it?

No, no.