Leslie Scism

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504 appearances 9 recordings 1 series first heard Sep 2017 last heard May 2023

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This required approval. matched
an application and our approval and this is something we never gave so the fault lay with the employer for not having gotten the form to the employee and getting it filled out and submitted to the insurance company for its approval but the labor department said listen if you're an insurance company and you are collecting premium you got to have a better system in place for talking with these employers matched
and figuring out exactly who has been approved and who's not. matched
And you should not be accepting premium if you haven't approved these people. matched
Prudential signed an agreement with the Labor Department under which it essentially agreed to do a better job of what it already is doing, which is telling employers that they must handle this duty properly. matched
And it will reinforce that if the employers don't handle this properly, the employer will be liable for paying out the death benefit to those people. matched
Prudential also voluntarily agreed to go back several years, review the denials, and if the denials were based solely on the lack of this original health form, that it would pay the death benefits in some or all of those instances. matched
So one thing people can do is read their materials. matched
And if, in fact, it says you need to fill out a form, you do unfortunately need to be looking at this material when you make a purchase. matched
And you need to go to your HR department and say, hey, this thing says I'm supposed to fill out a form. matched
You haven't given me a form. matched
What's up with this? matched
Insurance companies send out approval letters or have other communication, digital communication, once the employee is approved. matched
But someone who didn't send in the form wouldn't get such a notification, so they don't seem to be aware that this was required. matched
And thus, they end up in these bad situations that involve a lot of heartache and grief and perhaps serious financial hardship at the point their beloved one has died. matched
According to the lawsuits in the Labor Department, in some or most or all instances, the people were refunded the premiums they had paid. matched
When the insurance company got the death claim, looked in its files and said, we don't have a health form for these people. matched
We don't have the application from these people. matched
It promptly reimbursed all the premiums. matched
But the problem is, at that point, families were counting on this death claim to help their family in the event of a death. matched
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