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public universities in the Midwest, of which, of course, I'm a graduate of Ohio State, and I'm still going to be cheering for the Buckeyes this year for repeat.

But they've evolved, and I love the mission of ASU as committed to that public purpose.

And I think that all of us as CIOs need to find mission that aligns to our personal values.

Yeah.

And I've landed good here at ASU that way.

Right.

And we were among the first to dive in during the 2008, 2009 implosion of the economy into online learning.

So one of the other things, just to sort of share it, when I said that when you get a CEO who gets it, 2008, 2009...

at least in my industry, folks were like heads under the table, just hoping this thing would, you know, kind of, the wave would somehow move over us.

But President Crow, along with, you know, a fantastic leader whose name is Phil Regeer, created ASU Online.

At the very moment that there was this incredible, you know, disruption in the economy,

And again, as technology people, we know that is a mark of great leadership when you're able to pivot at that exact moment when everyone else is figuring out how to just survive.

You're figuring out actually how to pivot to what comes next.

And again, Michael Crow and Phil Regeer are fabulous visionaries and more importantly, in many ways, visionaries who know how to actually make it happen.

It is.

It is indeed.

Keep this in your...

In your podcast here, Ed, yes, Ironman.

And I know that, you know, you've been an inspiration to many, many of us, not only because of your Ironman, because of the circumstances and your Ironman work.

So, you know, you are a remarkable human and inspiration to us.