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Lewis Bollard

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
737 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

One example would be Innovo sexing as a new technology that can get rid of the need to kill male chicks in the egg industry.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

The unwanted chicks are killed at birth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And Inovo Sexing has already spared about 200 million chicks from that fate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So there are these giant drivers, and the good news is we're just getting started with them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

There is the potential, I think, to help tens of billions of animals through these drivers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Sure.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Yes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

I mean, the historical basis is

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

is a story of technology doing harm, which was we initially, the egg industry and the meat chicken industry separated because they realized they could grow meat chickens to be optimized for weight gain and laying hens to be optimized for laying eggs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

That meant that the laying egg industry had no need of the male chicks because they couldn't lay eggs and they couldn't grow fast enough to be meat chickens.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And so what they decided was to just kill them on the day they were born.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And so the standard practice, and this is about 8 billion chicks globally every year, are just thrown in a giant meat grinder or suffocated in bags the day they're born.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Crazy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

This new technology is basically the application of existing technologies to scan the eggs in advance and work out whether they're going to be male or female.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And then you can just get rid of the male eggs very early in the incubation phase.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And this technology went from 10 years ago just being a vague idea to today, it's already a third of the European egg industry.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

It just got introduced to the United States.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

We've got the first eggs coming out in the United States now.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So this is a technology that is growing rapidly, and I'm really optimistic can ultimately end this problem globally.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

I think it was both.