Lewis Hart

So absolutely seeing a lot of that.

And I would guess if the Strait of Hormuz conflict continues for a lot longer, there's going to be a lot of creativity in terms of how to discharge cargoes from those ships, get them to safer ground, and then export them in some other way.

Mm-hmm.

I would imagine if I were Saudi Arabia, I'd be thinking about building pipelines, going the other direction.

I'm sure that's happening all over the Middle East to try to avoid the straight.

Even if it does subside, I think people are still going to want to find alternatives because we've realized how reliant we are on this one choke point.

We learned a lot.

Yeah, that was fun.