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Lewis Hart

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
368 total appearances

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Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

It revolves up and down.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

The big variable that is always tricky is what's the price of that commodity at the time of the loan?

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

And these structures are designed to give clients flexibility to buy the copper, whether it's $6 a pound, $4 a pound, $7 a pound.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

it's hard to predict these capital needs.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

And that's most lenders like fixed amounts.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

This is a floating dollar amount, which is kind of a unique part of it, where the value of the loan changes as the price of the commodity changes.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

Yes, so good question.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So think about a client who's buying a pound of coffee, right?

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

Think about your local coffee shop here.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

That coffee bean traveled 2,000 miles from somewhere likely in South America.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

It went through a whole process of milling and exporting.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

It went on a ship.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

It ended up at a roaster in the U.S.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

and finally made its way to a retail shop elsewhere.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

in Manhattan.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

There's a ton of capital involved there.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

That client likely agreed to buy that coffee several months in advance.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

The time when they actually fix the contract and pay is when the coffee ships typically.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

And at that point, we don't know if the price is going to be $3 a pound, $2 a pound.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

$1 a pound.