Li-Lian Ang

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Future of Life Institute Podcast · Defense in Depth: Layered Strategies Against AI Risk (with Li-Lian Ang) · 2 Apr 2026 podcast

on parts of a country in Southeast Asia's infrastructure.

And we are likely to see a lot more of this, especially for countries who don't have as robust cybersecurity practices.

I think it's like you need fewer personnel and the speed at which you can do it is a lot faster.

Where there are lots of steps that are required for you to be able to launch a cyber attack.

You need to first be able to find the vulnerability, be able to exploit this vulnerability within a system and then deliver some kind of payload that...

destroys, takes down, or extracts data from that system for you to cause some kind of harm.

And previously, for each of these steps, it's like a puzzle almost to solve.

And when you only had human hackers, you would need them to just figure out themselves, okay, for every task, you need a person on hand.

But if you have an AI agent running in the background who can already automatically do these tasks by itself, and maybe even coordinate a group of agents to just do this,

You only need one person and a very powerful AI system to be able to do this from end to end.

Yeah.

I think it's...

A bit of both.

Well, one of the speed aspect is because as much as the attackers are going to have access to AI agents to be able to launch the attacks, the defenders are also going to have access to similar technology.

And then over time, it will be a matter of whose agent is better, which is kind of similar to just how the whole cybersecurity space is just overall.

It's not totally novel.

And then moves to a question of who is able to...

attack or defend much faster and who has more resources to be able to strengthen each side much better and protect this kind of attack-defense balance, as people say.

Hmm.

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